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Post by aeroxforce on Jun 1, 2010 16:44:08 GMT -5
Lol, I have no clue what you are talking about....
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Post by Raven on Jun 1, 2010 16:55:02 GMT -5
Ohhhh, Solange is way more dangerous.
The Tulpa has a soft spot for Jo, her being his daughter and all. Solange feels nothing but hate and jealousy towards Jo. She wants to wipe her off the face of existence, where the Tulpa still holds this glimmer of hope that he can bring his daughter over to his side.
Buttersnap is an old "inside joke" from the board. I don't want to hijack the thread, but I posted a definition to "fucktard", I think and it included the phrase "buttersnap shitfuckery" and we laughed like crazy over it. So then we used it all over the place for awhile and it stuck. That's all.
Khrystyne, your post gave me a headache. Wow, you really thought things through. I can't do math. I have teh dumb. But your numerological theory did get me thinking that maybe, if Sola's kid grew up in Midheaven, where time is slower, someday she can have her own showdown vs. Jo's kid. BOO-YAH! Who's the Kairos now, bizzotch?
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Post by aeroxforce on Jun 1, 2010 17:04:48 GMT -5
Haha, got it.
You know, I'm wondering is Ashlyn half shadow and half light as well then? So in reality there is "3" kairos now? And since Hunter is light and all would that make the new baby only part shadow, or completely light?
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Post by Raven on Jun 1, 2010 17:29:00 GMT -5
I guess we'll have to wait and see. I've discovered that Vicki has plans for everything and she knows what she's doing, she just chooses to reveal it in her own sweet time. (Which can sometimes frustrate the hell out of us.) She knows what she's doing.
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Post by jackie on Jun 1, 2010 17:56:13 GMT -5
Well, with Ashlyn, we know that Ben is the dad. (Gets that outta Joaquin and the human she rescued from the maze in ToT (?)). So, Ashlyn should be 1/4 shadow, 1/4 light and 1/2 human i should think. Kinda like Olivia was only 1/2 light and 1/2 human. Hunter and Jo's baby should be 3/4 light and 1/4 shadow. Too bad can't have Sola and Tulpa take each other out!! Maybe that's what she's trying to do with all her souls? Get enough power to destroy tulpa and rule the zodiac with her Kairos daughter as her hench(wo)man? Yes, Vicki knows what she's doing. Just wish I could see into her brain sometimes. She's an evil genius. . . .In the best possible way, of course
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Post by kiraglade on Jun 1, 2010 22:58:21 GMT -5
Love love loved the book, the bazooka was awesome =) I got that Jolivia was pregnant, looking forward to seeing her kick Sola's skanky ass. Poor Hunter dude needs to catch a break, warren needs to be offed in a spectacular horrific scene, Zoe was kick ass. GAH now we have to wait a whole year to get the next fix
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Post by khrystyne on Jun 2, 2010 0:17:50 GMT -5
Sola is the more immediate danger. If she's already sentMackie after Jo, who's to say she won't send someone else? Plus, she has Jo's man in captivity. Tulpa & Warren are probably tied in 2nd place. They're busy fighting each other, but they'd probably find time to make our girl miserable. Ok got another Q. Who do u think protected Jo's soul? I think it's Zoe when she painted those temporary hienna tattoos and gave Jo all that Tibetean stuff, but who knows...it could the ability Sola's after. Guess I'll find out in a year or so
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Post by elle on Jun 2, 2010 5:51:50 GMT -5
ooooooooooooo nice idea ... I like the henna theory.
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Post by Vicki Pettersson on Jun 2, 2010 9:56:51 GMT -5
Hi Straw - Oh, don't worry. I've no plans to quit writing now. I see myself scribbling furiously for quite a few more years. No worries. And thank you for reading. Sorry to confess that the 6th won't be out until this time next year - but the first draft isn't even done yet. Publishing time does not = real time. It's a strange time-suck vortex, I'm afraid. Vicki, LOVED all your books. When you're finished with this series, please start another one right away. When can we expect the 6th book? Now that she may/may not be pregnant, I'm DYING for the next one. Please, before your fans expire - will the 6th be out this fall???
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Post by Vicki Pettersson on Jun 2, 2010 9:58:01 GMT -5
Ah, Mik. You win some and you lose some, eh? And I cried w/Luna too. That's how I knew you would. Sorry. Muah! OH. MY. FUCKING. WORD. Yes, late, as per usual for me. I'm obviously going to have to read the book again because I missed the pregnant thing too. I remember the scene with Io and her asking if she wanted her to get rid of it, I think...but I can be SO unobservant. I loved the wedding scene. The prince as a tulpa--totally didn't see that coming. And I have to take back my words too because I think I also said there was no way that Suzanne was Zoe. Wasn't it DL that brought that up? Nice call... AND YES! I HAD NO DOUBTS ABOUT HUNTER...EVAH! {laughs at DL--ha hahahhahaha! I knew it!} Um the part that really made me cry and I didn't see anyone mention it...was when Jo found her cat. I lost it when she went to pick her up and she opened her eyes. That was some sick twisted fuckery right there. Warren and Sola both need slow, painful deaths. I'm definitely going to have to re-read soon. ;D Great job, Vick and congrats on the release!
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Post by Vicki Pettersson on Jun 2, 2010 10:03:02 GMT -5
Hi Spunky - Yes, it was all there. I'm a mother too, so I think having been through it helps in picking up some of those clues. I did rework the ending a few times to make it clearer that she was pregnant, but stopped fiddling before I stuck a neon sign over the fact. I just don't like being spoonfed my fiction, so for those who caught it, it was a great surprise. A little something extra. For those who didn't, they'll get the full Monty in the next book. (Yes, a sixth is coming!) Great point re. Ashlyn. It would be great fun to write a YA with her now that she's "out." Hmm... You're killing me with the "reading in one day" thing, tho. Just sayin'. I figured it out in the end and everything seemed to make perfect sense, like how she could hold a conduit, unless I'm mistaken on that. How Jo was sick from certain smells or how she was smelling different fragrances. There where so many signs and it wasn't fully until the end when she placed her hand on her belly where I smiled and practically screamed "I knew it!". As a mother myself some of the signs where easy to spot. God I love these books. I only actually started reading them last year and bought the whole series and was sad that I had to wait and now I have to wait again. Great Job!! I'm always left wanting more. Even if Joanna series is done, I'd like to see the story about her daughter and how that would pan out. There are so many possibilities with the twists in the book. Can't get enough, I really need to learn how to stretch a book out instead of reading it all in one day. I pieced most of this together after i finished the book and reread a few parts, but here's what i think is the gist of it, DL: At the beginning when Io was doing her initial exam of Jo, she picked up Jo's heart and that was when Jo felt her love for Hunter, the love she kept trying to bury. Then at the end, Jo asks Io to explore her her body again ,to understand where the so called soul connection with Hunter was, the one everyone keeps talking about. Io confirms that the aureole is gone, but it looks like there's another connection to Hunter that they hadn't considered. That's when she whispers something in Jo's ear, and Jo gets all dazed and wanders off into the desert. Then, Carlos comes out and tells her that the others are waiting to offer their congratulations, and he asks her if going after Sola is what she really wants to do considering what she just learned. She says something along the lines of this something that will make a woman more dangerous ever. And then she puts her hand on her belly, not her heart, and that's where says that that's where her true connection with Hunter is. Does that make any sense?
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Post by Vicki Pettersson on Jun 2, 2010 10:04:49 GMT -5
Oh, I did. I totally loved it. Reveled innit. But it was still hard not to slip! And I was so pissed when some of you pondered it here. Grrr! And, Ravie, I love torturing you in particular. And sitting on Suzanne for four books has been torture. Sheesh! You loved it! You sick woman. I even asked you! (Before I read it.) When I was going to meet LITA and I called you to ask if there was any message to pass on to her. And I said, "Oh, by the way, there's all this speculation on the board that Zoe is Suzanne. Is she?" You wouldn't tell. I said, "Who is Zoe?" You were like, "You really wanna know?" I'm was like, "Duh." You made me promise not to tell, of course, building the suspense, and of course I promised and then you said something like, "Zoe is Warren! She's me. She's you!" And then you cackled that wonderful evil author laugh. Heh. Torture, my ass. Torture for us. You LOVED it. You play with our emotions like a kid with Legos, carefully contructing them, building them here, only to knock them down. EVILE. But we love you to a million pieces because the tortue is exquisite.
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Post by Vicki Pettersson on Jun 2, 2010 10:06:00 GMT -5
Jenna, "Well, dang" is Good. My work here is done. ;D OMG I loved it Vicki. Evil.... I was so wanted Ben *sigh* Loved the newbies and her mother. I think everyone mentioned everything I liked. I do have to read it a second time to see if I missed anything. *Sigh I can't believe Jo is pregnant I think my words were, "Well dang." Great job Vicki on another wonderful book
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Post by Vicki Pettersson on Jun 2, 2010 10:08:09 GMT -5
Hi Dawn, Thank you for coming out of lurk mode to comment -- and, of course, for reading! I loved reading what you loved, what resonated, etc. It was really quite the journey, wasn't it? And it's so nice to be able to *share*. (Phew!) It's not alive only in my mind now, but yours as well. So I'm thrilled. Just finished reading CTG late last night. LOVED it. Maybe my favorite of the series. It is so good. Jo being pregant - I had picked up the hints as I was reading, her always feeling sick, etc. But I kept thinking I was reading too much into it and my hopes were influencing how I was interpreting what was happening in the story. So when I got to the end I was thrilled. And its even better that Vicki has confirmed it because she did leave it vague enough that I was still doubting it. So yay Vicki, I love that twist in the plot. Now she just needs to get Hunter back. Although I loved the book, Luna's death was really sad, almost had me crying. And I'm really going to miss Jolivia, Cher, and Suzanne. I loved that Suzanne was really Zoe, and it didn't completely surprise me since I had read the threads on this forum discussing that theory. But it will be sad that these people won't be such a big part of her life anymore and that she won't be using her identity as Olivia anymore (although Olivia wasn't killed off, so maybe a return to that identity at some point? Not sure Jo would welcome that though and its good for Jo to be herself). I was totally surprised by the Tulpa/Arun storyline and Skemar's death. Also didn't see the independent agents coming. Loved that part of the story. Hopefully Jo can find some true friends she can be herself around and truly trust, who won't just see her as a tool. Carlos is great. If Jo didn't have Hunter, he would be a great choice. Hopefully he will just become a really good friend. And I hope to see and learn more of the other independent agents, which I'm sure we will in future books. I just hope Warren gets what's coming to him (I'm thrilled Zoe was pretty upset with him, loved that part of the book). The nerve of him to offer Jo her spot back in the troop. I also hope some of the Agents of Light wake up and stop buying the "Warren has his reasons" line. Can we get the 6th book yet??? Please! ;D Just kidding Vicki, take you time writing them so that they will all be this good.
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Post by Vicki Pettersson on Jun 2, 2010 10:08:56 GMT -5
Mont, Thank Wilkes comment is the scariest thing I've ever heard! Running .... fast. Just finished reading CTG late last night. LOVED it. Maybe my favorite of the series. It is so good. I am right there with you, this installment was so rich and satisfying that even though I am sleep-deprived I am feeling hopefull about the direction things are going. I absolutely adored this book. There is a very small part of me that is sorry I don't have any Annie Wilkes in me, because I really wish I could get my hands on the next book.... I'll just have to hope that Vicki's muse is whispering in her ear and keeping her busy.
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