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Post by vikkis03 on May 29, 2010 22:06:18 GMT -5
I really need a drink right now, Jo PREGGERS! Wow that is so amazing, it better than toast with butter and jam. I need to do a re-read stat!
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Post by shewolf on May 29, 2010 23:27:37 GMT -5
Just finished the book and I loved it! The loved the grays, especially Carlos. I also did not get the Jo was pregnant until I read the last part. Zoe/Suzanne with that sawed-off shotgun was all kinds of awesome. I can't wait to see Jo's showdown with Solange and getting Hunter back. I was only disappointed that Mackie didn't kill Warren.
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Post by jackie on May 29, 2010 23:56:41 GMT -5
He definitely used Regan both times because when JJ showed up while Jo was there, she was confused that the picture on the wall looked feminine but the figure before her was decidedly not. I like both ideas about hunter's soul. The changeling and that women are the power. Thanks for the insight. Now i'm going to have to go back and read the books again to find the aureole where hunter was holding a baby. Now that you mention it, i do remember something like that. Hunter seemed surprised when he found out where Sola was though. Can anyone determine the timeline for Hunter/Sola? When she got pregnant, when she had Lola, how old lola should be and when did Sola leave for midheaven? I'm confusing myself trying to figure this out. . . . Help!
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Post by aeroxforce on May 30, 2010 0:31:05 GMT -5
Just finished the book the second time... and now, since I was expecting it, I can't believe I missed that she was pregnant! That is amazing . And you're right DL, even with his entire soul he is determinately less than a female in that world. Thanks for the reminder! That's right, I remember! The poster did turn feminine... If that's the case then did Regan go once herself or what happened to the last third of her soul? As for the timeline... all I can guess is that she went into Midheaven right after she took the Changeling's soul. Though that wouldn't make much sense as no one ages there... right? She would still be as much pregnant as she was when she got to Midheaven? Do people age in Midheaven, and if so if 2 days is 10 weeks, how long is 9 months? Lot's of questions to be answered .
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Post by jackie on May 30, 2010 13:23:06 GMT -5
That's where I get confused in the timeline too. In SoS when they share the aureole it says she saw the birth of a daughter through hunter's memories. So, he saw the birth somewhere. Wasn't there something about using the changeling's soul to ferry two souls over (sola and baby)? So she left while preggo and he still saw the birth. If he went over once to see the birth without using someone else that could be a reason Sola has a piece of his soul. Although the time in midheaven is all screwy so, seriously, how long was she pregnant? lol. Cuz if 2 days is 10 weeks, then pregancy (280 days) would be 1400 weeks or about 27 years would have had to pass. Although maybe Sola can do what she wants. She seems to be aware of the passage of time, cuz she complains it took JJ long enough to get there. Maybe time passes differently for the women (or at least Sola)?
Obviously no closer to clarification. lol. More questions come up. Where's Vicki? HELP! lol
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Post by Raven on May 31, 2010 7:38:29 GMT -5
Okay, Vicki's not going to really answer anything that is to be revealed in future books. She's just going to give us that evil author laugh.
And if I told anything that I knew, she'd cut my head off.
I'm with shewolf, Mackie killing Warren would've been sweet. But I have a feeling Vicki's got something really nice in store for that buttmunch. Warren is the Light's tulpa, basically. He's gotta make it to the end for the ultimate showdown, right? But who will it be against? Jo? The tulpa? ZOE? Oooooo...
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Post by aeroxforce on May 31, 2010 11:48:14 GMT -5
Ohh, Raven, you're almost as evil as Vicki.... almost, but not quite!
Do you think the Tulpa will make it to the end? I got the feeling that the ultimate showdown will not include him...
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Post by Raven on May 31, 2010 16:49:27 GMT -5
It HAS to. Who else could it be? Not that I'd tell you even if I did know.
But dudes, did you not love the living hell out of Caine? I wanted MORE of him. Yes, him providing the ultimate sacrifice made him all the more: a. bad-ass for doing it b. creepy for getting off on the pain c. mysterious that he'd do it for someone he just met
But also, it made Mackie seem all the more scary and powerful. That merely holding him so Jo could escape killed Caine. Mackie and that soul-stealing blade. Which, by itself, in genius. Vicki managed to bring in a whole new baddie that wasn't a Shadow, not anymore anyway. This created a new element to the game.
LOVED. CAINE.
I so wanna pick Tekla's brain on that dude.
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Post by aeroxforce on May 31, 2010 18:06:02 GMT -5
Haha, I only said that because she wants to kill the Tulpa to gain the Aureole to enter Midheaven to save Hunter and free other grays so that the grays may battle the light and shadow and take over.... I thought that battle would be the ultimate showdown. Though she may just kill someone else (oohhh maybe Warren? ) to get that Aureole! That would be cool too--the more exciting battles, the better
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Post by jackie on Jun 1, 2010 0:40:40 GMT -5
Caine was pretty amazing! Can't believe devouring Mackie killed Skamar! Ack! So now it's gotta be Jo vs the Tulpa, right? I would love to see Jo kill Warren, but what is his conduit that she could use against him? Break off his bad leg and stab him with it? ooh. that might be nice actually. . . . .Her next book is (hopefully) gonna have some crazy battle scenes!!! Can't wait for Jo vs Sola!!!
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Post by aeroxforce on Jun 1, 2010 1:08:38 GMT -5
Wait, wait... what if Jo is really... wait for it! Warren's daughter, and Warren is really the Tulpa so Jo is the Conduit and to kill the Tulpa is to kill Warren Haha, yeah. I think I would rather see Warren suffer at this point rather than the Tulpa. The Tulpa was created to be evil (right?), Warren let power get to his head and uses and abuses those around him. (though I love to hate his character. I love his complexity, always has me trying to guess what the hell he is up to! Woo go Vicki!!!) Jo vs Sola is the battle I can't wait for... I wonder how being preggers will effect all this. Should be an interesting read!! And Caine I found creepy, in a good way. I liked his love for pain! Kinda made me feel for the guy, someone who was just yearning to be touched and yet no one was able to. Who do you think is more dangerous at this point: Sola or Tulpa?
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Post by vampyre on Jun 1, 2010 1:49:29 GMT -5
I am not finished yet so I just sikipped down here to say "Buttersnap"? Really? That was too funny. Was she able to work "Lta" in there too?
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Post by jackie on Jun 1, 2010 13:22:04 GMT -5
Personally, I think Sola is more of an immediate danger. Tulpa is still recovering from Skamar's battles and having witnessed Zoe again may take his mind off track for a little bit. He may try to hunt her again? Anyway, I say Sola cuz she's obviously working towards being "the first", whatever that means, with all those souls in her sky. Also, "bitch has [Jo's] man" lol. Gotta get rid of Sola to get Hunter back so they can free Lola and Jo can tell him about their baby! Their baby! *happy sigh* Vicki has something up her sleeve about Sola's pregnancy and Lola. She's probably gonna blow our minds in the next book! I'll have to re-read about Skamar. Think had to be named by Jo so that it can recorded in the comics like a birth certificate? Probably more power to Skamar if named by the Kairos than a rogue, no? That would be awesome if it was hunter and Jo's baby, but so far seems like aureole can only share past experiences. Nothing else they've shared in the aureole has been the future. Bummer. As for what Sola is after. Oh, man. Too many posibilities! Maybe ability to get into the Light's sanctuary? I don't know. Maybe everyone else has better ideas. . . . .
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Post by aeroxforce on Jun 1, 2010 13:57:44 GMT -5
What's buttersnap in relation to?
As for Jo naming skamar I believe she had to because skamar was made to be jos doppleganger and if Zoe named her it wouldn't be recorded in the manuals making her far less powerful.
I think sola wants to rule everyone and everything in every world. A very power hungry bitch!
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Post by vampyre on Jun 1, 2010 14:25:26 GMT -5
I thought it had something to do with" buttersnap shitfuckery". Maybe I got it wrong.
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