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Post by miki on May 29, 2008 12:37:11 GMT -5
Yay! we can talk about the book now! I had started a thread last week to say it's really good, but Raven said she had to delete it even though there were no spoilers. Oh well. So anyway, I don't think there's anyway Hunter's a Shadow agent, but he could be pretending to be to get inside information for Warren.
I hate what's happened to Ben. I can see why the troop feels like they need to do it, but I think it's wrong of them. I wonder if something will happen later to interfere with however Micah messes with Ben's memory so that he gets his true memory back. If so, he's going to be pissed.
He should have known the difference between Jo and Regan. That was nasty seeing him with Regan.
For what, or should I say whom, is Hunter searching with his prostitution?
OT... I just discovered that if a page doesn't load properly, it may be possible to see everything that's supposed to be hidden behind spoiler tags. Of course Ben would be pissed if he ever found out. Hopefully, he never will. I tihnk it's for his own good that they messed with his memories. I'm just afraid that Regan will still try to get to him. And yes, it was nasty reading about the two of them together. Now about Hunter...that's an interesting question you ask about the reason behind his prostitution. Although, we don't really know how far he's gone--and I really don't want to think about it, haha. I know he said he'd do whatever his dates wanted...I'm still hoping to see him and Jo together. I will not believe that he's a shadow agent, but you could be onto something about him pretending to be. as far as seeing spoilers--whenever you reply to a thread, all the messages are at the bottom of the post reply page with all the spoilers exposed anyway.
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Post by destructogirl on May 29, 2008 12:52:37 GMT -5
I just finished ToT and I'm still processing it....lots happening to think about. Quick Points: -I CAN'T WAIT FOR A ZOE APPEARANCE!! (Next book Vicki?) -I think Ben got the short end of the stick. Hell, Jo thought the human was Regan and almost killed her, so why should Ben not get the benefit of the doubt too? He greatly desired Jo and he got was he most desired, under the influence of Regan but still he wanted her and believed that she was still alive so why not sleep with her, thinking it was her? I think it was good that they fiddled with his memory and he gets a second chance. If you love something set it free....that's exactly what Jo needed to do. -I really hate Regan but she is a great antagonist and I don't want to see her go anytime soon....but when her time is up I hope she has a bad, bad time of it. Although Jo did give it too her with the photo trick and being flayed and broken can't be much fun either. -I was relived that Hunter and Jo hooked up, but he still seems to have an ulterior motive to me. Shadow manual??? -I liked that more of the secondary characters have been fleshed out a bit more. Chandra is becoming a more interesting one for me. Of course after letting it simmer for a while I could change my mind about a few things. Then the reread will insue! In fact I need to start back at the beginning. Thanks for a great read Vicki and as usual..... can't wait for the next! Oh, the year will just creep by..... Oh and Raven, your avatar is very distracting....in a good way.
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Post by Raven on May 29, 2008 14:36:48 GMT -5
I just finished ToT and I'm still processing it....lots happening to think about. -I CAN'T WAIT FOR A ZOE APPEARANCE!! (Next book Vicki?) OMG! I don't think I could handle it! Very good points. But it's still so heartbreaking. LMFAO. "A bad, bad time of it"? You're funny. I think the shit the Tulpa gave her was bad enough. I like that Jo finally fought back with some crafty tricks of her own. Now, off her with her head is good enough for me. She needs to be gone just for damage control purposes. She knows too much. He's just licking a microphone. I swear. Try animating it frame by frame. THAT'S distracting. ;D
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Post by destructogirl on May 29, 2008 16:45:03 GMT -5
Yes, Regan does know too much and needs to be gone, but what fun will it be without someone we love to hate? ;D
Now about that Trent avi....I've seen that numerous times thanks to my BFF who can't get enough of it, so doing it frame by frame would be a labor intensive "task." I'll be seeing him (and Robin!) twice in August, can't wait!
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Post by deathlynx on May 29, 2008 16:47:02 GMT -5
Well, I still like Regan...she's such a bee-atch but she's a wonderful antagonist...and yeah, I really like the ways Jo gets back at her...Fire up that Shadow side girl! (Incidentally, I was predicting that the third sign referred to Jo's Light side as her dormant side because she's mostly used her shadow side ) I don't know about you women (for obvious reasons) but I can say from a male perspective that, love or not, there's no way we'd be able to tell a woman is 'different' just by making love with them...If you're expecting that kind of ability from your men, you're gonna be sadly mistaken ladies! Heck, it's different every time, even with the same woman... Though I do agree that the mental reset is what Ben and Jo both needed... Hunter!!!!!!! Jo does seem to have the ability to drive the men around her into darkness doesn't she?
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Post by miki on May 29, 2008 16:59:50 GMT -5
Well, I still like Regan...she's such a bee-atch but she's a wonderful antagonist...and yeah, I really like the ways Jo gets back at her...Fire up that Shadow side girl! (Incidentally, I was predicting that the third sign referred to Jo's Light side as her dormant side because she's mostly used her shadow side ) I don't know about you women (for obvious reasons) but I can say from a male perspective that, love or not, there's no way we'd be able to tell a woman is 'different' just by making love with them...If you're expecting that kind of ability from your men, you're gonna be sadly mistaken ladies! Heck, it's different every time, even with the same woman... Though I do agree that the mental reset is what Ben and Jo both needed... Hunter!!!!!!! Jo does seem to have the ability to drive the men around her into darkness doesn't she? Hhmm...that's brave of you...now, let's see, I'm still gonna say that Ben should have known. Yes, it can be different every time with the same person, but there are certain things that can't be duplicated by someone else; no matter how good the resemblance. Now, if there's a a guy out there that looks like my husband (talks,acts, etc. like him) I dunno...when it came down to 'business' I'm thinking there'd be something to tip me off that it wasn't my husband. I'm just sayin'... Regan does make a good antagonist........ But guess what? She still needs to die! As for Hunter...he...is...not...a...shadow agent... (that's my mantra for the day)
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Post by deathlynx on May 29, 2008 17:28:39 GMT -5
I have to agree, at this point she needs to die because otherwise she would spill Jo-livia's secret...it's the only believable course that I can see... As for telling the difference, I know I couldn't...I'm certainly no Richard Rahl...blindfold me and stay silent and I'm not gonna be able to tell the difference (well within certain reason)...maybe it's because men are less sensitive (heck, we only have a single level of orgasm not 7 like you women ), or maybe it's just the men I've known... I'm certainly not saying it's unrealistic for Jo to have thought he should know the difference...but she does have to remember that of course Mr. Super-human-Aries wouldbe able to tell...he's got super senses and years training in them
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Post by miki on May 29, 2008 18:03:41 GMT -5
Yes, Hunter did tell her that any man would know the difference, didn't he? All men should try to emulate him...hahahaha! =) (aw-right, I'll stop)
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Post by destructogirl on May 29, 2008 18:23:03 GMT -5
Hummmm....it's almost like Regan and Hunter were working together.....
He did happen to be there at the moment Jo saw Regan and Ben together to swoop her away from confronting them and convince her that the dirt bag should've known it wasn't really her. Maybe that's why he would've been in a Shadow manual?
Just thinking.
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Post by miki on May 29, 2008 18:33:33 GMT -5
he was there because Chandra told him what Jo was going to do. He knows she doesn't think right where Ben's concerned.
hhmmmm....Hunter's not a shadow agent...Hunter's not a shadow agent....repeat
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Post by destructogirl on May 29, 2008 18:45:07 GMT -5
Oh yeah, now I remember that! Still he did plant the seed that Ben should know the difference and get her to let down her guard. Naughty boy!
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Post by miki on May 29, 2008 18:46:15 GMT -5
EXACTLY!!!! he knew what he wanted... ;D
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Post by mouse on May 29, 2008 21:09:53 GMT -5
As for telling the difference, I know I couldn't...I'm certainly no Richard Rahl...blindfold me and stay silent and I'm not gonna be able to tell the difference (well within certain reason)...maybe it's because men are less sensitive (heck, we only have a single level of orgasm not 7 like you women ), or maybe it's just the men I've known... I'm certainly not saying it's unrealistic for Jo to have thought he should know the difference...but she does have to remember that of course Mr. Super-human-Aries would be able to tell...he's got super senses and years training in them I agree with you to a point. You're not always going to tell a difference. BUT if you have sex with the same woman or male repeatedly you tend to know certain things. Like how you feel in them or them in you, the tricks to make them moan and groan and they know the same about you. You learn these little things/manor isms and expect them during sex. Like after a long period break when you haven't seen someone in a long time and had other partners afterward them see them again and have sex you remember and you're like 'Oh... I miss that..' or 'Oh god! This is why we haven't seen each other in a while'. But if you are like a man whore and putting your penis in every skirt that walks by you're not going to know the differences. So far that we KNOW Jo and Ben have only had sex 3 times. Plus they were each others' FIRST. With that kind of format you would think they could remember the feel of each other's bodies. Or else you would be left with 'that kind of felt different/weird' I really hope Hunter hasn't turned Shadow. If he does I'm making a funeral thread of dead light stars. *is still moping*
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Post by miki on May 29, 2008 21:12:39 GMT -5
wow mouse,
you put that plainly, didn't you? =) I liked the man whore reference. HUNTER IS NOT A SHADOW AGENT! (I'm yelling my mantra now.)
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Post by mouse on May 29, 2008 21:15:35 GMT -5
I tried to make it idiot proof. I'm still on the fence with Hunter. I'm expecting the worse and hoping for the best. I don't want to be caught off guard again and get crushed. Because if I sit here denying the fact that he MIGHT be shadow and it turns out he is and Jo and him have to fight or something I WILL be CRUSHED and a book might be destroyed by a blender. Jo has lost so many people in her live(S) already that she doesn't need to loose another one. But Vicki did say she was putting Jo through a lot of heartships or something like that. Pushing her to her breaking point. So I'm staying in neutral territory. Found the quote: The true answer is this: There will definitely be six books. I'm going to push Joanna as hard and fast as I can in those six books, and see exactly how much she can take. If there's more story left, I'll write that, but I'm not going to dilute the series or drag it out. She's done when she either 1) can't take any more, 2) dies, or 3) wins.
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